Palin flipped on Alaska's 'Bridge to Nowhere'

that bears little resemblance to this one, in which

Please note that this "article on this site is on every news site except FOX. She lied --and that is a fact.

Beth- I am hearing SERIOUS rumors (true only rumors) that Palin covered for her underaged daughter who truly had the child by claiming it was hers. Her daughter was pulled out of school for eight months and not seen nor heard of... hhmmmm eight months to recover from Mono??
Rediculous - eight months for a term pregnancy - sounds right on to me...

I am beginning to wonder - is this cover-up really true?? Someone needs to really dig for info in Alaska because this would be a truly great lie and abuse of power to perpetuate a lie like this...

serious rumors similar to the ones we heard about Michelle Obama having sex with Nancy Pelosi and their scientific miracle love child Eric Estrada.

Cool it with the rumors, it really makes you look foolish.

I looked at the picture of the child in HD and found it to be altered probably by Photoshop. Take a look around her waistline you will see a line that does not fit and one below her bump. Unusual Then I looked at the dot on her dress in that area and found they are of a different size. The lead me to believe it was altered so I did not comment on it.

Also I read on two blogs that her children are home schooled and this article says the girl was out of school for 8 months. This is curious and I cannot find anything for sure but I do not believe it is real.

You have to take into consideration that she was in the public eye during her pregnancy.

Now who did the deal. First they will say a liberal did it but why would that happen. She has so many lies that are being disproved that Liberals do not need to do this.

My guess is it is Rove. The Master of deception. He passes it on they release it Liberals jump on it then they get blamed she ends up with a sympathy vote.

By now they know the deception she has created The bridge and the trooper story are being exposed they need to protect her with something. They made a mistake and it could ruin them.

You know, people like you make me sick. You are spreading an absolutely ugly rumor that you admit that you don't even know if it is true about somebody you have never met and who has never done anything to you.

You are disgusting and should be kicked in the butt until you learn a little respect for other human beings.

I bet you are just a joy to work with -- you are probably the gossip of the office. I bet you never bother to find out if anything you are blabbing is true or not.

You are just one of those small, ugly people who love to put other people down.

I wonder how you look at yourself in the mirror.

Bridge=true
Baby=rumor

It would serve you well to admit the truth and not spread an unproven rumor.

Guys, I am an Obama supporter...but based upon my research it does not appear that the pregnancy change is true. There is a couple photos on-line that seem to show Palin very pregnant in her eight month. Liberals should be more intellectually honest than our opposition, it is one of the characteristics that make us superior.

It's official, Palin's daughter is STILL pregnant. Thanks for sticking up for truth. We should not be spreading rumors as they do about Obama.

And if Obama makes it were are really screwed! He wants to have a force like the Brown shirts that Hitler had and with the Democratic controlled Congress they even want to control what we read and see on the Internet! and then obama wants to weaken our military! right now is not the time to do such a thing! Go vote for Obama but if he makes it you will regret it later!

You know that web site you got that junk from is run by a bunch of kids. And right now they are somewhere laughing at you and eating popcorn.

Don't worry, I will vote for Obama, and so is are all of my friends and relatives. And no, I won't regret it later, but will be happy this country will get fixed from the ruin the Bush administration put this country in.

why arent the rumor police jumping all over SMELENDEZ? oh, because they are bashing obama and the dems with unfounded speculation and that is A-OK. sorry, move along.

Oh for heaven's sake, you people need a life. If she had been holding her newborn, you would have said she was using him for publicity.

As far as her "covering" for her daughter and her supposed pregnancy, that is absolutely false. Anyone who saw her while she was pregnant could tell that she was indeed pregnant. Saying nasty things about her and her family is just a desperate attempt by democrats to throw her in a bad light because they have little else. Democrats rushed to the defense of Bill Clinton when he was busted for oral sex with an intern while on the job, saying that was his "private business" yet are willing to spread falsehoods about a remarkable woman. Comment when you have actual facts, not just regurgitated B***S*** from the dems spin machine.

Well, at least have her husband hold the baby. It was ridiculous to see the 16 year old holding the baby. Why isn't the husband, who supposedly is the one taking care of the baby, holding him. Is he afraid he won't appear macho enough? A joke of a pick. The family already seems dysfunctional. And any woman that would leave a four month old special needs baby has got to be selfish, and self-centered.

Well she and the right can bring up Biden and plagerism but she tied herself to ferraro and Clinton and McCain is running the Clinton boo boo every ten minutes in my area and they are sinking in the polls as we speak. I really thin Rove is trying to sink him because he believes all the stuff he said about him in the carolinas in 2000

You sir are one sick puppy!

In case you haven't noticed, the Bush Administration has trampled the Constitution and made a mockery of it and other federal and international laws. And in case you haven't noticed, your retirement probably went down in value under Bush's leadership. Pay attention!

Get we already have "kissed" some of these things away in the past soon to be eight years. Lastly , if the Senator does in fact vote his conscience then why the 180 on prochoice as he was in 2000. What about the turn around on the tax cuts for the euber wealthy? Conscience huh? Palin fits right in with this line of thinking. Only reason she changed her position was to publicly distance herself from Stevens while he is under his own investigation. Didn't McCain say that Phil Graham would leave his campaign only to return a month later. A decision made of conscience. Stammer and stutter on that.

Well stated.

Well stated.

lol, yep Alaska is overflowing with money. Of course she could say no, If we want a bridge to nowhere we will build it ourselves. You can do things like that when you have an abundance of money to spend. That wasn't a big decision.

A half truth is still a lie. She stated in her speech this was one of her accomplishments that she stopped the bridge to save taxpayer money when in fact she supported the bridge Right up to the time Congress wanted Alaska to take the majority of the costs. Then she opposed it. The Bridge to nowhere was Stevens thing. Turns out he and his friends own property there at the end. There is a ferry there now and I guess they did not want to wait for it.

There is another story you will find in the Times on someone using her small child's name and someone who had a lot of personal information on the family who went in to Winkipedia and altered he profile the night before she was supposed to be in Dayton for the announcement. A lawyer was in adding some information and corrected a lot of it and now the log in has been deleted

I agree 100% Our nation under Obama would be an Obamanation! HE WILL KILL AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT. Might as well hand it over to Iran now.

She would have taken the money had not Congress seen how wasteful it was. They are the ones who told her to take a hike.

Wasn't this article about Palin's lie in making it appear she didn't take the money? Can't you deal with that issue without bringing Obama into it?

Great Post. If there are any doubters, they are either in denial or did not watch the Saddleback Forum. Sen. McCain destroyed Obama in every facet of the interview. It is completely obvious Obama's is aware of his own weakness as actions speak louder than words. This is evident to the fact, Obama refused to attend town hall meetings with McCain, and avoids Bill O'Reilly in a fair and balanced debate like the plague. (You also cannot say Bill is not fair and balanced if you viewed his interviews with Hillary Clinton and John McCain) Obama opts out in favor of giving speeches to large crowds instead of engaging in a productive debate with his opponents. Obama will debate John McCain only at the minimum required, so as not to give the appearance of avoiding them altogether.

Bill O Reilly is fair and balanced!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

This is an even better joke than the Sarah Palin one.

For one thing, Obama as opposed to others writes many of his own speeches. He also did not use a ghost writer for his books. As for his 'stuttering and stammering' at forums like Saddlebrook, I saw a man who gave thoughtful, even profound answers at times. Like when asked the question about how to defeat evil, Obama responded that often evil is committed in the name of good so it's important that when taking any aggressive action, one needs to proceed with sense of humility. It's funny my girlfriend and I had a conversation about Obama yesterday. She says Obama scares her because he wants to change politics, he wants America to think deeply and with common sense and the problem is that Americans are just not that deep. (or smart?)

It's hard to disagree with that assessment when I read posts like yours that provide clear evidence that some people are so deaf to profundity that all they are able to hear is 'stuttering and stammering.'

On the subject of organizational and managerial skills, history may yet determine that the campaign organization that Obama put together was one of the best run in American history. So much for never managing 'anything'.

Speaking of Saddlebrook, McCain came across as a 5th grade game show contestant. If giving fast answers or telling (emotionally affecting I admit) POW stories that didn't even always match the questions is your idea of 'winning' then you are right. Since this is first I've listened to McCain speak at length, I was mainly struck by an impression of immaturity. Obama, on the other hand sounded like a grown-up having a depthful conversation.

To say Bill O'Reilly is not fair and balanced is absurd. Did you watch either the McCain or the Clinton interview? As much as I hate to admit it, Hillary did and outstanding job answering the tough questions. Laureng, you need lay off that kool-aid you been drinking. One, I said nothing about the Obama's stuttering and stammering, but since you mentioned it and 5th graders. hmmm think about what you said that is how my 2 kids talk when they are lying or don't know an answer but won't admit it. For crying out loud Obama cannot even admit the surge in Iraq has worked. Now I agree there needs to be a change in the way politics in America are conducted. But as a soldier who has traveled around the world and seen the effects of a welfare/socialist state and the cost to its citizens, Obama is way too far to the left for America. Compound that with a far left Senate and Congress and we've got a recipe for disaster.

The article seemed fair to me, and included the governor's press secretary's spin on her change of mind. A change of mind when one knows the full facts certainly can be justified. It also mentioned John Kerry's flip-flop on Iraq spending, which was completely irrelevant to the matter at hand. And as for "all the good news about Palin," that isn't the subject of the article. It isn't relevant. Reporters are not supposed to add gratuitous filler material just to make someone look good. But when all else fails, we can insult one another, eh, Patrick?

"Of course when you become governor things come into much sharper focus than when you are a candidate," he said. "Then she is forced to pay very close attention to the fiscal realities of it."

hmm, she didn't know the $398 million bridge would be costly and pointless endevor? She doesn't know "what exactly it is a vice-president does everyday"? Great choice there.

Patrick, I would be cautious in bringing up "the affair" issue around any Republicans. McCain left his wife and mother of his children for a younger woman....Rudy Giulianni has left more than one wife for a younger woman.....Newt Gingrich served his ex-wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital fighting cancer. Hard to beat those facts, isn't it? Having an affair with Chris doesn't sound so bad now!!!!

As things are going now who is to believe the rest. Most of the Alaskan bloggers are laughing particularily about the executive bit. Is she for real or just another political opportunist.

Actually, before you smear the author you should check other sources. This is a very fair representation of what happened. Other sources are much less charitable, linking her change of heart to the Congressman's troubles.

As soon as Rove and his gang got into it eveything got suspicious.

Do ya like that Jack? She told you how to answer, didn't she? You're a SMART man now Jack. Fools.

So, if she were V.P. it would seem that her hubby would get to sit in on all the meetings as executive privelege, and who the heck is really running the show there? If he wanted to be governor himself why the heck didn't HE run????

Heck the way she works she could have appointed him as something "officiial" in order to at least make his presence halfway legitimate.

After all, she appointed her brother in law trooper before she decided to take that decision back too. Coincidentally AFTER her sister divorced him. (I think he SHOULD be fired, but who's the MORON who appointed him in the first place????? You guessed it... PALIN.)

I thought these examples of McCain/Palin executive experience to be enlightening:

How Sarah handles adversity (from the Anchorage Daily News):" Gov. Sarah Palin, who expressed disappointment with the dairy closing, replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation, which oversees the Creamery Board. The new agriculture board then installed itself . . ."

http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/story/9099429p-9015627c.html

This is how John McCain deals with American citizens who dissent:

Queston to McCain: At what point do you stop doing what YOU think is right and start doing what the majority of Americans want?
McCain's answer: I disagree with the majority of Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk&NR=1

What a comfort to know that with all their experience they feel so confident of themselves and omnipotent!

I'm so frightened of that duo, I can't sleep!

on her way up she nailed two of her republican "friends" on ethics violations. Alaska politics are as dirty as you can get. One time my friend who left up there told me he would give me a plane ticket and bet me I could not find an honest politician in thirty days. Alsaskans themselves laugh about it! Her husband called the guy she hired on the phone from her office and tried to pressure him to fire the trooper!!! She was out of town LOL
When the guy would not cave again she was out of town and she sent an assistant to fire him. She replaced the guy and a few weeks later the replacement had to resign!

I do not make this stuff up folks. And I am sure the DNC has all this information because it is readily available out there if you look for it. If I can find it so can they and certainly that brain dead staff of McCains should have found it but they are mostly llobbyists who have better things to do than protect him.

Lobbyists for the oil company. The purpose of Pilan as a VP is to assure that business as usual will resume. It falls in line what D. Chenny did the first few days in office.

Yep, we've seen lots of liars the past 8 years ... George Bush, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Jack Abramoff, Tom DeLay, Bob Ney, Mark Foley, Larry Craig ...

All fine christians.

George B.. don't want you to make an ass out of yourself.. since you want to be fair, you have to also give the other side of the aisle as well...

Hillary is big liar
Bill is a huge liar
Al Gore is a huge liar to global warming proportions
Obama.. hmm.. don't know if he is a liar or not.. I mean he went to a racist church for 20 years and says he wasn't there when they were spewing the hate. He is in bed with a developer who is on trail right now...hmmm.. I think we can say he is a huge liar as well.

I also think the dem party is a liar also.. did you see that tape at the convention when Hillary was naming off the things that she was a "proud blank" and it got huge appluase..

"I am a proud mom" huge applause
"I am a proud New Yorker". Huge applause
"I am a proud American." Did you hear the crickets after that statement? Go back and review the tapes, it's there..

Also, the choice of the Dum Nominee by Obama.. how come all these years I have been hearing that Chaney was in charge not George. The Vice president should not be doing anything when it comes to foreign policy etc etc.. Yet when Biden gets nominated all we hear from the Dums and the leftist fascist media is that "Biden is a good nomination, because he knows a lot about foreign policy, and can do wonders in that region for Obama."

Wait.. I thought I heard all of yall say that a vice president shouldn't do that... do we actually have Dems telling the truth and trying to be reassuring that Obama doesn't know anything and Biden will pick up the slack? BTW the steel workers Obama rescued when they lost their jobs.. who closed the steel plant.. what side of the aisle made the plant close, and who were the enviormentalist?

I just wanted to help George B (the poster) out with his liars list so he is the fair man he pretends to be.. or is he a liar too?

Yes, that love their country too. (but, hate half the people in it).*

*Thanks Jon Stewart

Okay, so politicians lie. Isn't our duty to call them on their bull@!$%#? If someone, left or right lies, I find it my duty to call them on that. If the candidates don't have integrity enough to disclose this, they deserve the fallout from having it disclosed.

She is headed to be the republicans Tom Eagleton.

Lets see if I can help her out with her resignation speech:

Do to family obligations I feel that I can no longer be the candidate for the Vice President, with a heavy heart I have removed my name from the ballot.

God bless us one and all.

Cross your heart!

Can you say "Anita Bryant"?

Or Phyllis Schafly?

First, Obama even made his birth certificate available online; it is against the Constitution to run for presidency without being a born citizen. You really think he'd be allowed to run if that were true?

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Second, yes, a politician is allowed to change their mind. But she was aware of the fact that the bridge led to nowhere and would be costly before she approved it. If she couldn't see the reality that $398 million is a lot for a pointless bridge, then I hate to see what other judgement she must learn on the job.

Ms. Alaska ... go to factcheck dot org. This is a non partisan site that looks into claims by both parties ... and either confirms or decries inaccurate statements (they rip into Obama just as much as McCain). There is a link "Born in the U.S.A.", date August 21, 2008, The truth about Obama's birth certificate. Bottom line, their experts examined Obama birth certificate and did other in-depth analysis and he is indeed a native born American citizen. You may not consider Hawaii to be a real state ... but it is one of the 50 states of this union. So ... before you make ignorant statements ... check your facts!

No respect for your country ... we are involved in a debacle of a war in Iraq based on lies, Afghanistan is falling into the hands of the Taliban, Bin Laden still on the loose, record profits for the oil companies and tax breaks for the wealthy, jobs going overseas, foreclosures at an all time high, an all time high deficit (we had a surplus during Clinton's presidency), ignoring global warming, a city was drowning and it took nearly a week for the Bush administration to react ... is this what you call respect for your country?

Living -

If what I've heard about the former brother in-law is true, then he should be fired. But that's not the point. The point is the governor's interference in a personnel (or is it personal?) matter, and her dismissal of the person who wouldn't do what she demanded. Whether or not her intentions were wholly honorable and not self-serving, if she did what she's accused of doing, then that is an abuse of power.

Holding the baby? You're right about that. Of course, she didn't hold the baby! Would you give a major speech with an infant on your chest? Would you conduct a public meeting or argue a case in court or try to sell a car while holding a child? Of course not.

But you are wrong about a LOT of other things, and that bit about Obama not being a U.S. citizen and his birth certificate -- that's just not the truth. To begin with, Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution mandates citizenship in order to be elected to the Senate. And only native-born citizens are eligible for the presidency. Don't you think that those basic qualifications are verified?

By the way, did you know that McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone? He's a citizen, too. Please make some effort to check your facts.

I think McCain has every intentions of "go get up Sarah!!"

sorry, I just couldnt resist passing up that "go get up Sarah" comment...

If John McCain would have picked a mountain gorilla as his running mate, loyal republicans would have justified his pick. I can see Hannity and Limbaugh saying something like "well, the gorilla was the leader of his/her group (executive experience) and led the war against invading gorillas (forein policy experience). Republicans are like sheep!

For all you nay sayers....Have any of you made a decision and then later learned more information about it and then changed your mind??

Yes I have and the proper thing to do when asked is to explain what you did not make the impression you are some knight who rode in on a white horse and saved the day when all you did was something small. People make their own bed. Plus in this case it was not about saving any money because she was for it as long as the feds paid for it. Only after she would have to cone up with the money out of her budget did she say it was a bad ide. Stevens was also catching it in Washigton. Go Utube do a search for Stevenson\et al

BTW I do not believe you live in Alaska at all from your later comments which are right out of the RNC playbook

Also we ll know the trooper was and probably is not the best person we have not said he is. The fact that she used her office to try and change a decision that someone made following the rules

You do not have to be born in this country to be a citizen, you must be the child of a U.S. citizen. You could be born on the moon and still be a citizen. There are many Americans born abroad.

If Palin wants to know what the VP does all she needs to do is put down the bible and read the Constitution (Article II).

Most of the criticism of Obama is baseless, i.e. he's a muslim, a fascist, socialist, wants to weaken the military, on and on. My guess is the top 1% or the uber-rich are not the folks offering comments on this site. The same people who are adamant in their criticism of his LIBERAL and SOCIALISTIC policies are the people who would most benefit from health care reform, better access to education etc.

In an older article. Palin was asked about the firings and stated in the case of the brother in law- the person in the investigation who she removed (which was not her bother in law) was not an elected official but was in a position the governor appoints- like a cabinet sorta. And that traditionally the governor has had the right to choose the folks in this position that they may work with to meet the goals of the state- which she did. not sure of any other positions that may have seen staff changes.

Why doesn't her husband hold the baby? It should looked as if there was a lot of strain in that family, totally different different than what we have observed in Obama's.

I would say that sure people can make decisions and then see that they took the wrong road and act on that. But then I would not state that I said "Thanks but no thanks to the Bridge to Nowhere". If I were to correct that, it would be "I said Thanks and then later said no thanks."

If she does not get elected,she can become a televangelist and make a lot more money fleecing sheep than voters.

Amen- Republic chicks as a whole are much better looking than Billary- oops, I mean dumbocrat chicks.

Shes not anti gay either she vetoed a bill and that gave gays the right to unions

Agree she's not bad looking for a grandma, but "hot"?? I don't get it. No one ever accused Tina Fey of being hot and she's at least 10 years younger (and infinitely smarter)

An eloquent rebuttal jeff, thanks for your insight and sharing your in-depth analysis and well considered opinion. BTW ... "give the US to an invasion" ... what are you talking about?

Jeff, your clarity of thought is mirrored by your eloquence and grammar.

Jeff, I think you need to give serious thought to earning your GED. Son, you're not ready for the real world. It takes more than a sixth-grade education to function as an adult.

I believe what he means is do what the Clinton's did in the 90's while dealing with terrorists and such.. Nothing.

Have a suicide bomb go off at an embassy.. give a news blurb

USS Cole bombing.. fire two missiles at an empty field in the desert.

Have the twin towers bombed once...be OJ and look for the killers.. I mean the bombers

Have the twin towers bombed again..put a man on trial .the man with no hands. What ever happened to that guy?

Have Bin Ladin wrapped up in a pretty package for you as a present from another country, after all these events have transpired, and knowing that Ossama was in charge of them all.

Ummmm.. say No I spose, it's OK.. we don't want him, let him go.

The war in Iraq is wrong.. it has nothing to do with our country.. but Bosnia on the other hand.. well yes, that has everything to do with our country, lets go invade it.

"Whats that you say? The U.N is going to be a pussy again and not help us, AGAIN? Oh well.. they will help us when we have finished, and have stabilized the mess."

Dar-fur is in trouble.. well lets just talk about the problems like the U.N. does and do nothing, it's what we do as a party.

Geez.. yes he didn't give a very insightful post, but what post do you give to dems who believe themselves to be so enlightened that they really don't know what's going on in the world. We are a laughingstock?

You mean from country's like France and other's who didn't want us to go into Iraq? Then it was found after we went in that they were violating the trade embargo so they could get cheap oil from Iraq..? Those country's are laughing at us?

In case it has missed your attention, we have always been disliked by the world before this war, where have YOU been? Or have you forgotten that right after 9-11 the news footage of all the people in the Middle East dancing and singing that 3000 people were killed as well as two buildings collapsing on television..Oh.. thank Ol'billy for that too.. he left the people who were responsible for 9-11 do what they did.

Yes I agree, lets follow their examples on how to be a good little law-abiding county....

In case you can't think for yourself, Iraq is next to Iran, which is supplying the arms and training to most of the Islamic terrorists.. or did you miss that news article or the Iraqi spies who reported the training camps?

Iraq is a very important strategic point, notice how after the surge worked (Obama will not admit he was wrong about that BTW) and order is being restored and Iran knows we are watching them, Terrorists operations around the world have almost ceased.

A part of me almost hopes Obama gets elected, then the terrorist will know we have another Clinton in office and will hit us again...much harder. (Hopefully in New York, California, or Oregon) and people will finally expose your party and make it go away.

You cannot live on a philosophy of high ideals, unless you factor in human nature.. and that my dear Dem is why your philosophy will never work. While you think about this.. why don't you go and give more money to the same people you have been giving welfare to since the end of LBJ's administration..after all welfare was supposed to be a hand-up, and not a hand-out right?

Kerry still only lost by one state and that was and still is questionable. Right is right and shall stand we got cheated out of two elections and look where we are.

oh btw.. you cant fault Jeff for his outburst or call it stupid... that's all your party and the people in your party know how to do when they one of their protests a-going. I am sure you Dems have never used that kind of language when protesting about a cause that's on your little Dem minds...like how bad ice cream is for you..or that cashiers at Walmart who have no college should be making nuclear physicist wages for scanning groceries...

Yes,I am sure you said a few F bombs when fighting to get that illegal alien who works in the drive thru more money...after all, we know these jobs are careers. (Did I miss something or do you think this is the 1950's when these were actually considered good respectable jobs?)

toastee, you might want to read a little history and find out why they hate us. There are many reasons. Bin Laden had his own personal, selfish one...money. He used religion to motivate, just like some of the Christian right try to do here. As for Iraq and Iran...maybe if the west hadn't created two 'faux' countries and set up the borders for them, then armed both of them to fight each other, we might be liked a little bit more in the Middle East. And it wasn't Democrats that gave them the ammo and told them to shoot. It was the Republicans.

Local library...history section...try it.

If Palin has to pull out Jeff should be the next Rep. VP candidate. Same deep, reasoning behind his discourse. Toastee - you're a Clinton hater who believes that we have not been attacked again because a tough Republican is in office, just like Reagan was responsible for the fall of communism, keep deluding yourself.

Im still wondering after all these years and one elections how the republicans can still insist it was the democrats that let 9/11 happen and would let it happen again if in office. Seems to me it happened on the republican watch and the terrorists are getting stronger and stronger while the republicans are still in office. Lots of fear and divisions spewed from them for too long. Time for a CHANGE.

Former Marine, it's called group hallucination caused by the crack. Their going to pretend that the last 8 years never happened. If something did happen, then it's not their fault. The Dems will only make things worse so the Repubs should be elected again. I'd hate to see where this country is in another 8 years with that mentality. Did you guys not notice that we're already in a war?

Toastee,

Jeff pounds out an eff you and you're able to translate for us such a wealth of points? wow.

How is this flipping? Its about using your position to get what you want and then saying you are a reform person and the other is taking credit for something you did not do!

There is modifying or changing position and then there's changing a position and then lying about it on your first day in the national spotlight. There is using your influence legally and then there's influence peddling. There is becoming powerful enough to influence and then there's abuse of power. Obama is the first; Palin is the latter.

Bama chas - surprisingly you should have seen the expose on McCain by CNN last night - I think they tried (remember they are owned also by Rupert Murdoch) to show McCain in a good light, but their aired (in five minutes mind you as I turned it off quickly) two very DAMNING pieces on McCain (I should have watched the rest)

The first was an interview with McCain when he was a POW POW POW POW POW POW - in which he says he cant wait to get home and return to his loving supporting wife who he loves so VERY VERY MUCH... but within one month of returning home he files divorce papers to marry a pill-popping heiress who framed a fellow co-worker to steal her drugs (what a class act Cindy)

and then he was ACTUALLY SHOWN BEING INTERVIEWED WHERE HE ADMITTED HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SHOT DOWN HAD HE ACTUALLY PAID ATTENTION TO HIS FLYING LESSIONS INSTEAD OF READING WAR AND PEACE... wow - to admit he neglected his flying lessons and thus was shot down because of it.... McCain you are also a class act - NOT...

Yeah, like he was reading "War and Peace!" He had to be joking, I'm surprised he's ever heard of the book. And what's with the interest in Russian writers anyway? He already cribbed the "cross in the dust" story from Solzhenitsyn, about a month after writing and publishing an article about this Russian author. He's such a liar.